For it to become a pandemic problem it would have to worldwide. Countries with less Internet and base education levels acccess will continue to grow. For it to be noticed the attrition rate would have to be obvious. For approx. every two baptized one JW "leaves" as an inactive, d'fd, da'd or death. So the numbers of batized would have to be considerably less than the attrition rate - which would have to increase, even above the natural death rate. So a ratio 1 one baptism to 3 attritions would no doubt be very visable in most congegrations.
Simon Morley
JoinedPosts by Simon Morley
-
7
Witch Hunt for Apostates
by koolaid-man inthe watchtower organization is very much aware of what is going on in their false religion.
too many witnesses no longer believe their teachings to be biblically correct.
an intensive effort to discover disloyalty, subversion, and those causing divisions is now taking place.
-
-
-
-
-
Simon Morley
The good thing about Libel (written) vs slander (spoken) is the burden of proof rests with the plaintiff not the defendant. Thats why Celebs (and likely the GB) are loathed to go to court - they would have to prove you wrong, you do not have to prove you are right. I cn only be a lie if the panaintiff proves it is.
-
20
Why are gossip and slander tolerated in the congregation?
by hoser inwhy are gossip and slander tolerated?
is this part of the master plan to control the masses?.
-
-
Simon Morley
It was the sole reason for my slow fade. Elder goes to CO with some "gossip" CO and DO crap all over, prove it is not true, they say okay but told to keep quiet, no apology, ask what scriptural basis there is for an elder to go over the body and me to CO - none - I'm outta here!
Trying to get to the bottom of gossip and slander (which I have zero tolerance for) is like trying to herd cats. Reason: most elders breach confidentiality and their wives are amongst the worse in a cong for gossip.
Funny how they never seem to "know" who told them - "oh well, ya, know, people talk...." but when they see some R&F talking to a person of the opposite sex they can name names, time, date, location, weather, clothing, etc with stellar accuracy.
-
37
Were You Afraid To Talk Out Loud For Fear The Demons Might Hear You?
by minimus ini know of many witnesses that were petrified that if they spoke about something out loud, the demons.
i swear jws think the demons.
-
-
Simon Morley
I remember the days of our coming into the org. I heard more demon stories at get-togethers than anything else. At one point I had to cut off one elder with fat and grissle between his ears as he was scaring the kids. The demonized smurfs, sweater that would not burn, etc. All created an environment of fear - "well if a sweater would not burn imagine what would happen if I talked out loud?"
-
29
How long is a "generation"?
by cameo-d inthere seems to be so much controversy over defining what exactly a 'generation' is.. i have heard it said a generation is 25 years; some claim it is 40 years; and some even say 70 years.. i think the scriptures describe the 70 years as life expectancy, with mightiness 80 years or something like that.. i don't think it is accurate to define the length of generation as the same length of time as life expectancy, but i could be wrong.. .
anyway, i am wondering if anyone has ever done the math on this scriptural clue:.
matthew 1:17 so all the generations from abraham to david are fourteen generations; and from david until the carrying away into babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into babylon unto christ are fourteen generations.. if one follows the lineage and a date timeline, would this give more accurately the approximation of a generation?.
-
-
Simon Morley
Apologies for the small font in my last post!
-
29
How long is a "generation"?
by cameo-d inthere seems to be so much controversy over defining what exactly a 'generation' is.. i have heard it said a generation is 25 years; some claim it is 40 years; and some even say 70 years.. i think the scriptures describe the 70 years as life expectancy, with mightiness 80 years or something like that.. i don't think it is accurate to define the length of generation as the same length of time as life expectancy, but i could be wrong.. .
anyway, i am wondering if anyone has ever done the math on this scriptural clue:.
matthew 1:17 so all the generations from abraham to david are fourteen generations; and from david until the carrying away into babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into babylon unto christ are fourteen generations.. if one follows the lineage and a date timeline, would this give more accurately the approximation of a generation?.
-
-
Simon Morley
The bible does distinguish generations quite well, so I doubt Jesus had any problem when he spoke of generations as being singular entities. Interestingly it does discuss overlapping generations in such places as Gen 6:9 which speaks of Noah as having " proved himself faultless among his contemporaries". The footnote states "generations" - NOT the singular "generation"
It is highly probable that Noah was viewed this way by sons, brothers, peers, etc. which would form several generations, all ovrelapping. "This generation" at Matt 24:34 (and the other ten instances in Matthew alone) gave no indication of so called overlapping. This was proven true just three decades or so later with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70CE within the generation he spoke of - the apostlel John was one for sure who lived beyond it. If he was "evidently" wanting us to think of overlapping generations he could have used the term "contemporaries" or some other word quite easily - but he did not. he was and always will be speaking of the singular generation because we have evidence he was right.
Expect some back-peddling in future WT issues on the subject.
-
22
nightmares after leaving
by myownlife inhello everyone, i have been reading the different topics and haven't seen this discussed..... i was raised in the 'truth' and decided when i was 19 this was not for me...but unfortunately it took years after that to finally make the clean break.
during that time and up until about a year ago, i was having strange and disturbing nightmares..it finally came to a head when i dreamed that i cussed out the elders in the congregation i had left.,..woke up in a sweat but felt great!
has anyone else experienced this?
-
-
Simon Morley
I used to have not frequent nightmares, but more that I used to when I was younger. Since not serving as an elder (over a year) and starting our families slow fade I can teel you that I have never slept better in years. I enjoy frequent deep sleeps with lucid, relaxing dreams. I acutually go to bed much earlier than I used too. I can recall frequent late nights and lost sleep which I am sure contributed to the hightmares.
-
29
How long is a "generation"?
by cameo-d inthere seems to be so much controversy over defining what exactly a 'generation' is.. i have heard it said a generation is 25 years; some claim it is 40 years; and some even say 70 years.. i think the scriptures describe the 70 years as life expectancy, with mightiness 80 years or something like that.. i don't think it is accurate to define the length of generation as the same length of time as life expectancy, but i could be wrong.. .
anyway, i am wondering if anyone has ever done the math on this scriptural clue:.
matthew 1:17 so all the generations from abraham to david are fourteen generations; and from david until the carrying away into babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into babylon unto christ are fourteen generations.. if one follows the lineage and a date timeline, would this give more accurately the approximation of a generation?.
-
-
Simon Morley
From the birth of a child to the birth of the first grandchild by that child.
-
385
NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
-
-
Simon Morley
Me, my dad, my son and grandaughter make up FOUR Generations not one, yet every one of us overlap - but we are not a single generation - never will be. Even if the gb stretched a symbolic familial generation that would only be from my sons' birth to my grandaughters birth, which normally is no more than 20 - 40 years (my case 28). No where in contempory or exant (1st cent) etymolgy is a generation defined as having more than one component.
It is of interest that the writers of this drivel have opted not to use their fondness for quoting definitions or secular authorities - they provide a defination without any backup reference ti support where they got sucha defintion from. Generation comes from the latin word generare meaning to beget. I have yet to find a definition that covers anything but - animate or inanimate.
-
12
When did the "tag team" generation start?
by DT inthat seems to be the impression that most people are getting from the recent change in understanding.
however, the recent watchtower article seems to contain some contradictions.
here is a quote:.
-
-
Simon Morley
Me, my dad, my son and grandaughter make up FOUR Generations not one, yet every one of us overlap - but we are not a single generation - never will be. Even if the gb stretched a symbolic familial generation that would only be from my sons' birth to my granduaghters birth, which normally is no more thah 20 - 40 years (my case 28). Nowhere in contempory or exant (1st cent) etymolgy is a generation defined as having more than one component.
It is of interest that the writers of this drivel have opted not to use their fondness for quoting definitions or secular authorities. Generation comes from the latin word generare meaning to beget. I have yet to find a definition that covers anything but - animate or inanimate.